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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Three years ago I joined The Realistic Trader knowing absolutely nothing about the industry. What stood out from day one was how the team let me learn at my own pace without any pressure and they've b... See more

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Have been with RT since 2020 and how time has flown by. Have loved every minute of it, learned so much & continue to learn to this day. From the early days of Forex trading, through to Crypto &... See more

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Siam is a great teacher and is very knowledgeable on investing, trading and setting up and running businesses. The team are brilliant and the events where we get together and hear from guest spea... See more

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Rated 1 out of 5 stars

In my honest opinion, The Realistic Trader is nothing more than a sales gimmick. Siam Kidd comes across as a slick salesman, using a facade of friendliness, openness, and charm to lure in unsuspec... See more

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Rated 1 out of 5 stars

If you're in the market for a truly…

If you're in the market for a truly unique crypto trading experience, then look no further than Realistic Traders! For the bargain price of $5000 per year, you too can join the elite ranks of those tutored by the one and only Siam Kidd.

Siam's coaching method is, shall we say, delightfully vintage. His teaching system harkens back to a simpler time, offering an outdated methodology that he himself has wisely chosen not to follow. It's a bit like studying ancient Greek philosophy - it might not have any practical use in today's world, but it sure does make you feel sophisticated.

But wait, there's more! For those daring souls who yearn for even more excitement, Siam offers an exclusive investment opportunity. It's a thrill ride like no other - imagine the exhilaration of watching over 60% of your investment evaporate right before your eyes! It's a white-knuckle experience that puts the scariest roller coasters to shame.

And the best part? Siam is always there, guiding you on this wild journey. When you start feeling dizzy from the steep drops in your portfolio, his soothing words remind you that it's all part of the plan. "Patience," he'll say, "you may start making money in 2025." That is, of course, assuming there's anything left of your investment. It's a true masterclass in suspense!

What really sets Realistic Traders apart, however, is the incredible sense of community. Siam doesn't just treat his clients like customers - oh no, that would be too mainstream. Instead, he chooses to take a more avant-garde approach, favoring tough love over coddling. He's not afraid to tell his clients how he truly feels about them, and isn't it refreshing to find someone so brutally honest in this day and age?

In conclusion, if you're looking for a crypto trading coach who will take you on an unforgettable adventure, look no further than Siam Kidd at Realistic Traders. It's a ride you won't soon forget!

January 9, 2023
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Hi Issac, firstly, We understand that our coaching method may not resonate with everyone. While it is true that our approach incorporates time-tested strategies and principles, We are continually adapting and evolving based on current market conditions and the experiences of our students. We are committed to staying relevant and providing valuable insights that can assist RT members in their trading journey. During your time with RT, We updated the course a number of times with new content and recordings from live sessions and even though you watched all the videos you clearly didn’t assimilate the information correctly.

Regarding the investment opportunity, We do acknowledge that market fluctuations can be challenging and may result in temporary losses. However, we ALWAYS emphasise risk management and guide members through these fluctuations, encouraging a long-term perspective. It's important to note that investment returns in the crypto market can vary, and while it may take time to see substantial gains, we fully believe in the potential for success when applying our strategies diligently.

Our commitment to the RT community extends beyond coaching. We continually strive to create an environment that encourages growth and personal development. While we acknowledge that our coaching style may be perceived as "brutally honest" by some, it is rooted in the belief that honest feedback is crucial for improvement. We aim to challenge members to push their boundaries and develop a resilient mindset required for success in the trading world.

We value the sense of community that The Realistic Trader offers. Our goal is to foster an inclusive and supportive environment where members can exchange ideas, share experiences, and learn from one another. We encourage open dialogue and appreciate the diverse perspectives within our community. Not once during your membership did you voice your dissatisfaction. The first we knew of this was a public rant on a live session where you verbally abused other members of the community. Even when Siam personally messaged you to try and resolve this you decided not to reply. It’s a shame really.

Despite this, We are sorry your experience did not align with your expectations. We continuously strive to improve our services, taking into account the feedback we receive from our members, both good and bad. We genuinely care about the progress and success of RT students and are dedicated to providing valuable resources and support.

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Honest and genuine

I was a member for approx 15 months and in that time I have learned so much. The portal is still available to me to visit and use for life and I do regularly use it still. Its great to go back over some of the lessons to continually top my learning back up. Siam is a genuine person, who really cares about your success. I have been trading for around 15 years and not very successfully. Finally I now have enough knowledge to go it alone and I am making consistent gains on a weekly basis. Best trading team I have ever joined and there has been a few lol. I will probably jump back in some time soon, Regards Chris Mills.

April 16, 2022
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Many thanks Chris :) very much appreciated!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Just get a taster (starter modules), don't get my word for it.

I know Siam for more than a few years already.
He is here to help people understand the basics of trading and going all the way to being profitable. His strategies are simple and easy to use. You have to use your common sense and have a great money management and trading psychology. And this is thought in RT courses. Just check for yourself, don't trust me: get the taster course (it was around £100 for the first modules) and see if his style fits onto yours.
Also, the amount of research he does is over any expectations and you can see that even on his youtube videos.
Thanks Siam and the team.
iulian

April 4, 2022
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Hey Julian! Thank you so much for the review and kind words :)

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

A great trader that actually cares

I'm truly lucky to have stumbled across Siam and the RT community. Having tried many other trading courses I can say Siam is the best - the nicest, most knowledgeable and most ethical.

The course is packed full of video demos and explanations and there are regular Telegram updates about the markets and the moves Siam is making. Siam is a unique person in the space- honest, transparent and a well rounded person without an ego or hinden agenda. He's also a great teacher that actually cares about us students.

The weekly trading pubs are very useful. I particularly love the way he imparts knowledge through diagrams. He regularly goes the extra mile to explain things that are off topic but still important.

I also value the regular CUDLs (meet-ups) and having the chance to meet people and have an intense day of learning.

My one issue is the fact that they use Discord as the platform to communicate in. I find it a bit too chaotic for conversing and learning compared to say Facebook or Slack but then again I understand why they made the move from Facebook too.

With all that said I wish I had found him much sooner. I definitely can't imagine navigating another bull or bear market without his expert guidance.

November 28, 2022
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Thanks so much for this awesome review and kind words Remi! I really appreciate it :)

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Sign up to the RT Community, it's the best present you can give yourself!

Great course content thus far. The RT admin and Avengers are always on hand for support and advice (which i have needed at times) and are incredibly knowledgeable. Siam always explains his tutorials in a way that is understandable, you can pause the video's to make notes as you go along and watch them as many times as you feel necessary. If you want honesty, integrity and insight i would highly recommend joining the RT Community.

October 10, 2022
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Thanks very much Michael, really appreciate it! I'm happy you've found the content so useful!

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Finally

I wish I could be back in time when I've started pay for so called trading courses.Lots of money and time lost.Finally I've found a TRUE trading course here.Not even a month in and already knowing loads more.Real information based on real experience.

September 5, 2022
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Ahhh thank you Mircea! I'm happy you've found it so useful!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

NO BS is being sold here!

If you are looking to learning to trade and understand trading from a wholistic perspective then RT’s content/ approach/ ethos is 100% genuine. If you apply yourself you’ll firstly learn more about yourself then your ever did and secondly how to manage your approach as risk appetite (money) correctly, and the profits will follow.

July 14, 2022
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Thanks Mohammed! Really appreciate this and great to hear you've learnt a lot!

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Rated 1 out of 5 stars

Egotistical fraud with great marketing.

Where to start with Siam Mr Kidd? I could write for hours on this subject, but... actually, I will.

Siam is a charming & charismatic man, which is most likely why he has such a loyal group of followers, no matter how relentlessly bad his calls/trades are. His ego is god like & he cannot take criticism, no matter how deserved, or earned, even sinking to the levels of attacking group members who don't agree with him, & not shutting down his groupies who join in. Some of the followers cannot accept his faults no matter how blatant, it's borderline cult like at times.

He offers so much in his trading package, yet gives so little by way of real advice or services. His trading course is about a decade out of date and is roughly 95% unprepared waffle. He loves the sound of his own voice. He changes his trading strategy as often as I change my underwear (once a week.)

When I joined the course, there was a 'state of the art' bot that was part of the sales pitch. This bot would give passive income, while we learned to trade at the same time. The bot would have been fantastic, had it actually worked, but it didn't, so it wasn't. It haemorrhaged money faster than the Venezuelan finance minister. Siam then stopped being able to share his forex trade as he isn't registered with the right authorities (I forget which ones.)

In 2020 Siam ignored cryptos while they gained momentum, taking off fast, fuelled by the biggest money printing experiment in history, which anyone with any finance/economic understanding would have pre-empted, rather than joining 3/4s of the way up. He then proceeded to insist that it would fly to $100k without needing a breather, only for it to crash, down to $30k. Only at that point did he say we would crash more & that there was nothing to be bullish about until we'd returned to around $48k. At $50k he insisted it was time to go all in, at which point we crashed back to $42k. I understand people can't get it all right... but at $6k/yr/person, you'd hope he'd be able to get 'some' right.

We then moved onto Wonderland, a high APY ponzy DAO protocol. It produced returns that late 1990s Albanians would have frowned at, but insisted that it was solid & sustainable, and even used it to entice investors that he could make easy money for them while taking an exorbitant fee. Of course the project started to crash, but because he had flooded the internet with clickbait youtube videos to get more followers, he kept insisting that it was legit and would recover soon, despite a chart that showed outright capitulation. So, his Discord channel started to fill with new members, desperate to get a slice of these insane gains he promised. What actually happened was that because Siam had such a large proportion of liquidity within the project, making him a whale, & with so many wealthy people in the group, RT became a bonafide pump & dump group. Then the next step was Siam dumping the market in the middle of the night when fewer people could front run him, claiming "I could see the charts showing a dump was imminent," when in fact his sell was what caused the dumping. It was disingenuous to the highest level. Many members who joined to get into Wonderland provided little more than exit liquidity for Siam. The majority lost money, while Siam profited massively. All of this while ignoring the rest of the market that was trending up with large surges in either direction, perfect for trading.

And once Wonderland had died a death, Siam stated that it had obviously been a ponzy all along. Then he moved on to his Bybit trades. I have never seen such reckless trading, and worst of all most of it is his 'Golden Geese' money, invested by people who are convinced of high returns by Siam. He trades crypto as if it is forex, when the two markets are so different. He has become a signal service, which he said he would never do, and does so without any technical analysis - which he dismisses.

Lots of investors make many mistakes, but Siam seems relentless in his bad calls, even regularly joking about the gambling side of his nature. I have actually heard of people that have started using his trades as a counter signal. If that's not a warning, I've no idea what is.

Unfortunately so much does he marinate in his own hubris that I am doubtful he is able to change. The sad thing is that he won't only wipe out his own money, but also that of the investors and the blindly loyal followers who seem to think his non-stop series of bad trades are inevitable before hitting the jackpot. It's like watching people in a bookies or on the slots, dead certain that the next one will be the big win that changes everything.

I gave 1 star, because you can't give 0 stars. 1 star amounts to 20%, and the only justification for that is Harry, an 'avenger' who utterly carries the entire course and would be far better going it alone.

Run away.

June 24, 2022
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Hi Dan, I'm sorry that you feel this way. I really wish you had spoken about this while you were still a member and approached us with your concerns and grievances. I have had a good look and can’t find any Dan Williams in our database so hope I am replying to an actual customer. Despite you saying that we are some sort of cult we are a very open-minded community and we regularly implement suggestions from members and always take feedback on board.
Trading courses can become out of date now and again. Right now, I am overhauling the whole RT portal trading course. Instead of the 5Ms of Realistic Trading (which is the logical way to learn Trading), we've now got years of empirical data about how students learn, and despite the course being set in a logical manner, because new students often enter with preconceptions/they're impatient/some previous experience, loads of lessons are skipped. And that's where we see all the hiccups emerging from.
Every time we have someone who blows up their account and blames us or tries to leave RT after a few months and blames us, when I speak to them, there are always huge knowledge gaps. And due to the knowledge gaps, after a month or even 3 of bad trading, they are more likely to kick off or think trading doesn't work or think the system doesn't work or any other false statement. As I am not 100% sure if you are a real member or not, I can’t see how much of the course you actually did. If you watched all the videos and then think you already knew everything and though there is no new content or the videos are out of date, you're seriously missing the point!!! I've been trading 20 years and am CONSTANTLY learning! Hell, I learned the rules of football and how to kick a football when I was 5. Am I Ronaldo? No. Content etc is the least important thing. Learning at least 1 method and relentlessly deploying it on the market (no matter how simple it is) is the most important thing. The course was recorded a couple of years ago, not a decade ago and has had updates throughout the years. Any who, I am halfway through re-doing the whole course which is going to be awesome.
You mentioned that we removed the Bot from our membership. We used it while it did work and then stopped using it when it didn't. The Bot could only work with Forex and myself and the community were focusing on Cryptos. We evolved and now trade on Bybit and have reaped the rewards as a result. Even though we only really trade Crypto now, any member can still trade on FXCM if they want to. I just can't share stuff on reg'd assets.
So what if DAOs like TIME have come and gone? We milked them and then stopped playing with them once the music stopped. Next year there will be something else. And the next year etc etc. Myopic people always fail on the markets. In order to hit statistical expectancy with your trading and investing you just have to continually exercise your strategies with consistency. Then you'll make money.
The Telegram group (or signal service as you called it) is really 2 things; It's a transparency thing so you can see every single trade I personally do, and it's also an educational thing. So, you can see WHY I'm placing these trades and can also learn from my mistakes and wins. And yes, members are free to copy my Crypto trades. But, the goal is that if a members own trades are consistently beating mine, over a solid period of time, like 6+ months, then technically they don't need me. In that regard at least. Also, you either copy every single move without fail, or you don't copy at all. The moment you pick and choose which move to copy, you're just deviating off into a separate expectancy path and from experience, you'll lose.
Obviously, I can't control what you think of me and I feel that nothing I say or do will change your opinion. It really is a shame as I do care about my students and their progress while they are a member of RT. However, from reading through your review I feel you have not grasped what we are about. I hold a live Trading session every week, we have a mentor session every week where a member can ask for any help they need and have hours and hours of training videos in the portal. You say the course is outdated but I am pretty sure you haven't watched the videos, or at the very least haven’t assimilated the information. It's a shame you never reached out to me or anyone in the office to ask for help. I've mentioned many times before that RT is about learning how to trade and invest properly and it's akin to a uni degree that is actually useful.
There are so many other reviews here and on Google from other satisfied members that vastly out number the negative reviews.

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

educator

i wish i had found this man 40yrs ago ....he is the best Educator around on a subject with so many mysteries and secrets. Siam Kidd with his sincere and candid approach has demystified the mystery surrounding finance and investing. i wish him all the best in his journey setting up his model on education schooling etc and to live life free from BIG BROTHER.!!!!
once again thank you Siam .looking forward to meeting u one day

April 25, 2022
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Ahhh Barry, thank you so much, that really means a lot! Maybe see you at the next physical event?!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

I have been following Siam for a while…

I have been following Siam for a while then joined his trading community. he is an amazing knowledgeable person, honest and kind. I started my learning journey with him and the community. highly recommended

April 17, 2022
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Hi Maany! Thank you so much, really appreciate it! Look forward to seeing you on the Summer Trip...not long now!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Money well spent.

I like it. It covers not only trading but other parts of business too. So far I have learnt lot.

March 23, 2022
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Ahh amazing, thank you Martin! I'm glad to hear it!

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Great content and support!

Since joining the Realistic Trader a couple of months ago I've been working through the wealth of material in the course. There's a whole load of great content to go through and videos of previous meetings.

There's also a very active community on Discord, sharing tips and ideas and where any question can be answered. Siam is on Discord too and posts throughout the week and dedicates most of Friday afternoons for live analysis and questions. I'm also loving Siam's Telegram posts of his thoughts on the markets in real time.

In summary- comprehensive strategies and fantastic support. Hoping the profits will follow!

March 9, 2022
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Ahh thank you, really appreciate it! So glad you've found it helpful! Best of luck going forward!

Rated 2 out of 5 stars

A few thoughts from my 6 weeks of using…

A few thoughts from my 6 weeks of using RT. I received a refund as the course wasn't what I expected and I was losing money for the first time since first investing in crypto 14+ months ago. I was grateful for the refund. In terms of actual trustworthiness, there's nothing to worry about here, but hopefully this review is a bit more realistic and current than some of the reviews on this site.

I, along with many others, joined at the height of the Wonderland DAO euphoria. I was drawn in by Siam's YouTube videos where he spoke about his phenomenal uplift from sidestepping TIME. It is clear from these early videos that by being in the RT Telegram group, you are kept in the loop with Siam's moves and therefore have a competitive edge over those who are not in the group. I came to realise that this is actually a clever marketing strategy of Siam's; he is an astute businessman first and foremost.

To join the RT Community is £4800 for 12 months. This gives you access to Siam's RT Telegram group, the RT Discord, use of a trading bot (for Forex), a weekly trading pub and the RT Portal. Over the course of the 6 weeks I was in the community I watched the RT members grow from circa 300 to 450- a £720000 annual increase for Siam.

RT Telegram group: Some useful information in here. Siam clearly knows his way around a chart and his technical analysis is usually on point. He has been trading successfully for many years. Initially, Siam would post his moves regarding TIME. Typically, the RT members would then scramble to be on the correct side of the 'Siam candle'. Siam repetitively said that his moves in TIME only moved the price by a very small amount. This is true, but doesn't capture the whole picture: Siam's move in isolation would only move the price a fraction, but as he had one of the top 50 wallets, along with a group of RT members following his moves and other individuals monitoring his wallet (because of the very public youtube videos he puts out), the price would move by hundreds of dollars. If you got caught on the wrong side of this, as many did, you were effectively giving your money directly to Siam. There were plenty of people in the RT Discord who would post comments such as 'down $3k on this move' or 'missed out again, heard Siam's message come through and by the time I logged on the price had already gone. Should have held!'. One afternoon, Siam put a message in the group to say he was selling. The RT community responded and the price started to move, meaning by the time Siam's transaction went through he missed out on a chunk of profit. This clearly frustrated him and he posted a message in Telegram: 'arghh front runned by RT again! Going to have to change the way we do things in RT...'. It seemed clear to me that the plebs (us who joined because of the YouTube enticing) had taken the bait and now it was time to change tac in order to keep topping up his profit. From then on he stopped posting updates on his moves with TIME. I genuinely don't believe he cared about the numerous people in his group who were getting rekt on a daily basis. This didn't sit right with me at all.

RT Discord: For the 6 weeks I was in the Discord, Siam was fairly absent. Often I would post questions which never got answered. Day to day running of the Discord is managed by the 'RT Avengers' who are helpful. There is some good information in here but realistically it's not too dissimilar to the good side of Crypto Twitter or other free Discord groups. With a little bit of research it is not too difficult to come across 99% of the info in here for free.

Trading Bot: I didn't get a chance to set this up as it is purely for FXCM platform to trade Forex. I reached out to Siam as I found a lot of contrary advice from the RT Portal to the discord, Siam responded: 'Bot has been drained and all my funds are now in crypto'.

Weekly trading pub: This is a live Q&A session held with Siam on a Friday afternoon. These sessions are useful as Siam goes through the charts and has a look at PA and potential movers. Frustratingly, with it being a working day I was unable to catch these live so had to rely on the recorded version being uploaded promptly as crypto is such a fast moving field. These sessions can also be quite long (up to 3.5 hours!) so it's useful to play them in double speed. As mentioned, these are on a Friday. One of these sessions was not uploaded until Monday evening. This is not acceptable. Even worse, on the Saturday in between I went on YouTube and saw that Siam had uploaded a new YouTube video on the Friday evening. This was absolutely infuriating to me and was the time I decided I would leave the community and ask for a refund.

RT Portal: Focused on Forex. People have commented under the videos asking about Crypto and Siam has responded- 'don't trade crypto, just buy and hold'. Lots of videos from thewap.org which is £10 a month.

March 1, 2022
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Hi SW, I do know your real name but don’t want to post it here if you want to stay anonymous as I know you were a member for a short time.

I have spoken about TIME, OHM and other DAO’s numerous times now. Something I constantly reiterate to the members of RT is that part of the learning journey with investing is to really disconnect yourself from things. We started the bear market and had to change our approach, you simply CANNOT 3,3 in a bear market. If you followed my OHM movements, you would have made money. I sidestepped every OHM fall. The only ticker I've lost on is TIME with just 1 fall. I sidestepped the rest of them.

You talk about me front-running the rest of the community and getting angry when I was front-runned. This is a massive mistruth. I care deeply about the RT community and am generally happy when members share their wins. That’s what everyone is here for. I even started a success channel in Discord not too long ago so people can share all their wins. I also started an error thread as sharing losing trades is just as important, that’s how we learn, hiding losses helps no one. When I said ‘arghh front runned by RT again! Going to have to change the way we do things in RT...'. This was not me being angry at the community, this was me trying to think of a way where I could share trades which would not affect either the community or myself in any negative way. But, DAOs have come and gone, we profited from some of them and then stopped playing with them. There is always something new just around the corner. In this case it was Bybit which we have been successfully using since the start of the bear market.
I try and be as active in Discord as I can, but my main method of communicating with the community is through Telegram. I share all my Crypto moves and update regularly through the channel. Yes, we do have the ‘Avengers’ in the Discord Group to help with questions and run weekly live sessions. We are also looking to add some more mentors into the Discord Group to help RT members.

The RT portal was not solely focused on Forex, the strategies and techniques can be applied to all markets. When the course was recorded, we were mainly focused on Forex so many of the examples were on FXCM. I am actually halfway through recording the new Trading course which should be available to our students very soon.

It’s a shame you left the community based on a video from a live session being uploaded late. Sadly, there are tech fails in life. Like you said, some of the live sessions can be over 3 hours long. These videos need rendering, editing and then uploading to Vimeo. This does take some time but normally all the videos are posted the same day and at the latest the following day. But on this occasion, there was a problem with my uploading so was not able to complete it until Monday.

Rated 3 out of 5 stars

some first impression after two months

Been here for two months already. I can surely say the community is absolutely great, there are few things that so far don't manage my expectation:
1 - The content of the course and the aim of the community are not aligned which is very confusing. Community is all about crypto and DAOs where the course is about how to trade markets. Some will say that this is the same but I will not open this discussion here.
2 - I am losing money, a lot. and with how the market looks now, I currently don't see how this is changing soon. Hopefully in few more weeks I will find the right way.

February 23, 2022
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Hi Jonny, so glad to hear you are enjoying the community. Hope everything is going strong and you have been following my Bybit trades through the year.
You mention the course not being aligned with the rest of the community. I am hoping you have seen my recent Telegram updates. I am currently re-doing the whole course; it’s going to be awesome!

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Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Very very informative content

Very very informative content. I stun upon Siam on Youtube about some Crypto content. Immediately realize what a good teacher he is, and found he even has a trading and business course. Bought it immediately and am happy I did. I lot of content to go through and digest.

January 31, 2022
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Ahh that's amazing Luka, thanks very much! I'm chuffed to hear you're happy with the content!

Rated 5 out of 5 stars

Siam is a total legend

Siam is a total legend, really great trustworthy guy, brilliant at trading, and totally down to earth, no pretending to be something he is not (which you get a lot of in this space). Finally someone who simply tells you exactly how to trade, and it works lol:)))

January 29, 2022
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Thanks very much Jonny! Truly appreciate this, means a lot : )

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